Iran\u2019s ties with the European Union have always been influenced by the political and social developments both in Iran and other Middle Eastern countries. The EU attaches a great importance to Iran, given the country\u2019s influence in the region, its numerous and diverse resources, energy reserves, and lucrative market for European goods.\r\n\r\nIssues such as human rights and Tehran\u2019s nuclear energy program have been among the controversial issues raised between the two sides in recent years. During the nuclear negotiations between Tehran and world powers, the EU representative tried to facilitate the achievement of a lasting nuclear deal by bringing the old enemies, Iran and the US, closer to each other.\r\n\r\nThe EU also took the first step and proposed a resolution to the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which was finally approved by the members and prepared the grounds for the operational phase of the nuclear deal (JCPOA).\r\n\r\nAfter the JCPOA, the EU is trying to rebuild its political and trade ties with Iran. The practical measures the European body has put on its agenda in the post-JCPOA era include: terminating the sanctions it had unilaterally imposed on Iran during the nuclear tension, helping Iran with its accession to the World Trade Organization (WTO), and opening the EU office in Tehran.\r\n\r\nDuring the forty years since Iran\u2019s 1979 Revolution, the ties between Iran and Europe have had lots of ups and downs. Arman daily newspaper discusses these ties and their influence on Iran\u2019s regional relations in an interview with Mehdi Zakerian, a university professor and political analyst.\r\n\r\nHere is IFP\u2019s translation of selected parts of the interview.\r\n\r\n\u00a0\r\n\r\nGiven the importance of the European Union as a regional body, what position does it have in Iran\u2019s foreign policy?\r\n\r\nThe European Union is considered a regional-international body. \u2026 The Union was originally founded for economic reasons, so the EU has great economic importance.\r\n\r\nHowever, the body has gradually turned to an international and multifaceted one with different political, economic, cultural, social, and legal aspects. We can dare to say after the United Nations, the EU is the most important body in terms of playing a role in and commenting on the resolution of international crises. \u2026\r\n\r\nThe EU is the most widespread regional organization of Europe, and given its importance in the international system, it naturally can be influential and significant for many countries. The body can thus be of a great importance to Iran as a key player in the Middle East. \u2026\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nThere has always been a rivalry between Iran and Saudi Arabia. But in recent months, the Al Saud family\u2019s anti-Iran policies have worsened, and the ties between Tehran and Riyadh have soured. Now, do you think the close ties between Iran and the EU could be effective in changing Saudi Arabia\u2019s behaviour towards Iran?\r\n\r\nI believe that they can be effective. An extremist and radical faction is in power in Saudi Arabia. There are wise people in the country as well. Therefore, the more that Iran can expand its relations and interactions throughout the world, the more influence it can have on our country\u2019s ties with third-party countries including Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. \u2026\r\n\r\nThe EU is an important regional body, and the way Iran interacts with it can motivate Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, under such circumstances, the EU might ask and put pressure on other countries, including Saudi Arabia, to maintain good regional ties with Iran.\r\n\r\n\u00a0\r\n\r\nSome analysts believe that Iran should start talks with a number of new countries in a bid to decrease Saudi Arabia\u2019s destructive policies. Do you think such policies can have positive outcomes? \r\n\r\nIn defining its foreign policy and relations with other countries and organizations, Iran should see beyond the ongoing crises or [temporary] conflicts of opinion with certain states. It should not boost its ties with the EU, Russia, and the US only because it has problems with a country or a group of countries. Rather, it should see how Iran\u2019s interests and demands are defined in the world, and which international players can meet them. We should start our talks and have good ties with different countries based on such an attitude.\r\n\r\n\u2026 It is totally wrong to enhance our ties with the EU solely due to certain current problems with Saudi Arabia. Traditionally, this type of attitude has been in place at certain junctures in Iran\u2019s foreign policy history.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nHas Iran\u2019s foreign ministry managed to have a constructive policy on the nuclear deal?\r\n\r\n\u2026 One should have specific strategies and plans for doing different things. Under the former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, we were faced with populist, slogan-based foreign policy. Their diplomacy was not at all based on knowledge and expertise. However, the incumbent government of President Hassan Rouhani has fortunately moved towards a knowledge-based foreign policy. The reason is the expertise of Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and his advisors.\r\n\r\nZarif has set good patterns for the country\u2019s managers. He said we should consider the Establishment\u2019s agenda in dealing with the nuclear issue: we should see what we want from our nuclear program. We should achieve whatever helps the country\u2019s peaceful nuclear activities, while abandoning whatever had led to the imposition of anti-Iran sanctions.\r\n\r\nIn other words, sanctions are out and peaceful nuclear activities are in. Having such a definition in mind, they started their negotiations with the Group 5+1 (Russia, China, the US, Britain, France, and Germany) under the EU\u2019s leadership, and we managed to achieve positive and brilliant outcomes on our nuclear program.\r\n\r\nNow, after such a successful model and experience, the foreign ministry should be permitted to work on other issues, including the definition of economic and political relations. Of course, this hinges on a categorization in which the EU is considered a top economic priority. \u2026 Iran, however, can have cooperation with the European bloc in various fields, because there are lots of common interests between the two sides. \u2026\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nIn which fields can Iran start its interactions with the EU?\r\n\r\nThe EU is not just economically important. Rather, Iran should consider political, cultural, and legal areas. \u2026 Currently, the continent\u2019s economy is attractive for Iran.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nWhat impact can the visits of European delegations to Iran have on the country\u2019s economy?\r\n\r\nThe presence of European delegations has a lot of positive and effective outcomes for Iran, but our eyes should be kept wide open, so that we can make the best use of these chances and achieve as much as possible.\r\n\r\nA question might be asked as to what Iran earns from such reciprocal visits. The answer is that such visits are great motivations for the expansion of economic ties between Iran and the EU member states.\u00a0 However, the country\u2019s businessmen, traders, industrialists, and experts in economy and industry should pay attention to the contract types. In the past, even during the reformist President Mohammad Khatami\u2019s tenure, which was a very successful era, certain contracts were legally ill-prepared. \u2026 Therefore, the way the contract is prepared and the negotiations are held is very important.\r\n\r\n\u2026\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nCan the recent terrorist attacks in Europe have any impact on European states\u2019 attitudes towards Saudi Arabia as the main state-sponsor of terrorism?\r\n\r\nTwo lobbies are active in major EU countries including Germany, Britain, Italy, and France. One of them is the Saudi lobby, in which Qatar, the UAE, and Saudis pay huge amounts of money to present Iran as a danger to the international community. \u2026 They claim these countries are opponents of terrorism and control such groups. \u2026 On the other hand, there is an intellectual movement in Europe, whose members believe that terrorism and violence have their roots in the Wahhabi school of thought. They believe those who develop such thoughts should be countered; therefore, they conclude that Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar are on the same boat as the Wahhabi and Salafi movements.\r\n\r\nThese countries are thus believed to be sources of danger for global peace and security. Proponents of the second European intellectual movement believe that having extensive relations [with Riyadh] is not in the interest of Europe. The movement, however, does not have huge financial resources and is considered a minority working independently in Europe. \u2026\r\n\r\nWhen the terrorist attacks occurred in Europe, the second movement attracted some attention, but \u2026 such incidents cannot weaken the Arab lobby. That would need more extensive and effective measures.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nHow is it possible to minimise the role and influence of anti-Iran lobby groups in Europe?\r\n\r\nIran, and similar countries, should look for a series of dialogue-based meetings. If such meetings are held between Iran and the EU, the money-based lobbies will definitely lose their influence in Europe, and the second movement can play a role in a revision of the EU\u2019s ties with these Arab states.